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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 8, 2010 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - 1978 Red Rocks

Not a fav. year , for me , but put this one down in the must listen category . I begin @ Estimated and go . I forgot Strat. about TDIH '78 . Will listen post kid bedtime . My fav. Franklin's .
Strat. - musically speaking ( to a non musician ) are there some similarities in the musical structure of WRat and DStar ?

edit - Thanks guys .

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-07-09 03:12:27

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 8, 2010 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - 1978 Red Rocks

i'll give an answer to that one - it's a resounding YES. both songs are in the same key signature and even the same mode, A mixolydian! They are rhythmic cousins as well, but straightforward 4/4 pieces with distinctive (and similar) rhythmic motifs.

The dark star "theme" plays with A major and G major chords, while the wharf rat "theme" plays with A major and E minor chords. G major and E minor are almost the exact same chord except for one note:

G: G - B - D
E: E - G - B

there you go. i wonder if stratocaster has any elaboration to contribute?

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jul 8, 2010 7:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - 1978 Red Rocks

midnightcarousel is accurate that the basic structures of the two songs share similarities...wharf relies on that Em and the A suspended chord, dark star is more of a comp fest with the major 'g' and 'a' chords leading the way, there's an Em chord in there for the 'shall we go' part...from then it typically breaks down...to elaborate further would get into the specific riffs and other sections of the tunes and whatnot...

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jul 9, 2010 1:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - 1978 Red Rocks

I was under the impression that Dark Star went A A G D with the D being more like a hint on the way back to the A.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jul 9, 2010 1:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - 1978 Red Rocks

I was under the impression that Dark Star went A A G D with the D being more like a hint on the way back to the A, the sounding key. As the GD often do, the major/minor tonality of the song is played with to give added tension/release. This minor tonality plays right into the Wharf Rat similarity.